While I am not a huge fan of the way Karin’s back story was portrayed in this episode (it was pretty brutal, not to mention uncomfortable to see), I do kind of appreciate getting to know more about her.
I understand this is filler so it’s not technically canon. But I don’t think it’s too far removed from the truth of her past.
It’s always been heavily hinted at that she was abused both physically and sexually. So I do believe this is based someone in the context of their reality.
I appreciate it because now I have so much more understanding of her as a character and it makes me like her even more to know the trials she went through. It also explains a lot of her behavior. It all kind of ties together.
Also, young Karin looks insanely like Sarada which only fuels my Karin x Sarada mother/daughter headcanons even more. A words of a SasuKarin
You can’t know more about a character from just a filler.
For example, certain individuals kept taking filler episodes as canon and, thus, began to see Sakura as “selfish”, just because this is what SP has always tried to make her seem like, while completely ignoring her canon self, which is completely the opposite. The same goes for the fact that NS appeared to have more than it actually had due to some meaningless fillers.
This episode was simply meant to make people feel bad for Karin and eventually change their opinion about her, while completely ignoring the fact that this episode is not canon and that it’s nothing more than a fanfiction. It simply didn’t happen.
”I appreciate it because now I have so much more understanding of her as a character”
Funny that you began to *understand her* so much more from a filler episode where she is actually portrayed way better and way more *innocent* than she was in the actual Manga.
Still, I wonder why didn’t you already *understand her* completely from the canon panels, which are the only one which can actually be considered?
You know, it’s awesome to start appreciating a character more, but a simple filler certainly shouldn’t be the reason for this. You should appreciate that particular character for what they really are and how they really are portrayed in canon.
And I hope you know what Karin’s canon story really is in canon, right? Some point during a war, Karin sensed a huge group of people approaching the village she was staying in and hid while they attacked. After the village was burned down and everyone from it was killed, Orochimaru came to her and asked her how she wasn’t injured and managed to survive, this leading him to bring her to Otogakure, where she would eventually serve as a jailer at the Southern Hideout.
^ Therefore, this filler even contradicts the canon story.
“Also, young Karin looks insanely like Sarada which only fuels my Karin x Sarada mother/daughter headcanons even more.”
Do you realize that little Karin’s design isn’t canon either, as Kishimoto wasn’t the one who drew it (a SP animator created the concept for that particular design of hers) and as Kishi didn’t even include Karin at such a very young age in the actual Manga at all? x”D
You know, this design is just as canon as the filler itself:
On the other hand, this design was actually created by Kishi and was, of course, used in the Manga, thus being official:
Just look at these two designs. If you let the colour of her eyes and hair aside, it’s just like we’re not even talking about the same person.
SP completely changed the shape of her eyes and made them way bigger, made her face way rounder and her hair way straighter.
And no, even if she was really young back then, a person simply can’t change that much.
THIS is how Kishi drew the youngest version of Karin from the entire Manga and THIS is how Karin’s eyes have always looked:
^ So, as you can see, her features from this canon panel have nothing to do with the ones she had in the design of her youngest self created by SP. c:
One funny thing to notice though:
By making Karin’s eyes wider and completely changing their shape, SP actually made Karin extremely similar to Sakura herself, who has always had this wider, cat-like eye shape in canon, just like Sarada (as she literally has the very same eye shape as her mother):
So, too bad for y’all that Sakura’s facial features don’t need to be changed at all in order to look exactly like Sarada’s, just like these two simple panels prove:
What can I say, simply keep ignoring the fact that we had an entire Gaiden that was mainly about Sarada’s parentage and in which everything regarding this matter was explained in the end.
And simply keep ignoring Sarada’s amazing resemblance to Sakura and the fact that, besides her facial features, she has also inherited her extremely good chakra control, thus having the very same amazing strength and beign able to punch the ground just like her.
And simply keep creating terrible, desperate *headcanons*, in which a man *has* a kid with a woman who has only always had an extremely creepy, unhealthy obsession for him, but STILL decides to marry *another* woman, who is actually the only one who has always loved him unconditionally, and brings the child to her (probably because he understands right away what great mistake he has made) AND in which the kid *hasn’t known the truth* their entire life and *never* gets to see or even meet their *real mother* at all.
^ *This sounds so, so, so nice in your opinion, right?*
And what is this mainly Karin-related post doing in the Sarada Uchiha tag, DESPITE the fact that you’re actually trying to steal her from her real parents?
Oh my god, did you seriously go trolling through a post that obviously held opinions you didn’t like just so you could write this long, spiteful post in order to fuel your SS crap? Seriously? Even though my original post had nothing to do with pairings. Good fucking grief.
“For example, certain individuals kept taking filler episodes as canon and, thus, began to see Sakura as “selfish”, just because this is what SP has always tried to make her seem like, while completely ignoring her canon self, which is completely the opposite. The same goes for the fact that NS appeared to have more than it actually had due to some meaningless fillers.”
I love how you use this as an opportunity to throw in your unnecessary opinions about Sakura and NS even though my post had nothing to do with either of those things. You’re reading so much more into a post just so you can have something to be upset about.
People don’t need filler to determine that Sakura is selfish - canon does that already. Most of the people who do deem Sakura selfish don’t even site filler for their evidence, they actually primarily use panels from the manga. Her canon self IS selfish. She cares about what she wants while masquerading that she is some sort of selfless martyr.
Also, I never mentioned NS or anything pairing related so why does that even matter? As a SS fan whose pairing is canon - you sure do focus a lot on stuff that supposedly doesn’t matter. Interesting.
“Funny that you began to *understand her* so much more from a filler episode where she is actually portrayed way better and way more *innocent* than she was in the actual Manga.”
Whether or not I understand a character in a different light has nothing to do with you or your opinions. Are you claiming that I don’t understand her better or that my understanding doesn’t matter because it’s filler? Because the message I derive from a character has absolutely nothing to do with you, so I don’t understand why you’re so insistent on ranting about it.
And in what way was Karin not innocent? Please, tell me. Oh, are you one of those SS people who called Karin a psychotic rapist? Because if you are, I am not even going to bother justifying that argument - it’s disgusting. You guys love to rant and rave about gross Karin is for being all over Sasuke when Sakura acts the same exact way. (But no, of course when Sakura does it it’s TRUE LOVE).
“You know, it’s awesome to start appreciating a character more, but a simple filler certainly shouldn’t be the reason for this. You should appreciate that particular character for what they really are and how they really are portrayed in canon.”
Why are you so fucking concerned with why I gain better understanding of a character? Seriously, why are you so butthurt about it that you have to make this huge rebuttal? Grow up.
Do I need a filler to appreciate Karin? No. Does this filler, while I recognize it as contradicting canon give me a little more understanding? Yes.
Please, kindly do not tell me how I should understand a character and I won’t tell you how to understand a healthy fictional relationship.
I AM FULLY AWARE THIS FILLER IS NOT CANON. I’m not a moron, so do not patronize me. However, certain things that happened in the filler are probably at least in the same realm of reality that Karin’s past was. She lost her home in a massacre, yes. Orochimaru found her immediately after this, yes. We still aren’t told much, if anything, about Karin’s bite marks, her healing abilities or how they came to be or were used before Orochimaru or Sasuke. It was also heavily hinted at that she suffered abuse. This filler provides a window into the life that could have possibly happened for Karin. Am I saying it’s 100% true? No. I am only saying that maybe something similar happened.
“SP completely changed the shape of her eyes and made them way bigger, made her face way rounder and her hair way straighter.”
I hope you realize that in every flashback of any of the characters as children their faces look more round as well as their eyes, and their eyes are always bigger. Many, if not all of the characters, are animated in a way that makes them look incredibly different from their current selves but you don’t see me over here running my mouth about how they “simply cannot change that much.”
Also that panel of Karin from the manga was an older version that the one you’re comparing it to - so the comparison doesn’t work.
Also, I love that you compare a picture of a 9 year old Karin to that of a 16 year old Sakura and say they look similar. They don’t look anything alike. And funny you mention that they tried to make Karin look more like Sakura here - when in Naruto chap 700 and Sakura’s next gen design looks EXACTLY like Karin’s.
“What can I say, simply keep ignoring the fact that we had an entire Gaiden that was mainly about Sarada’s parentage and in which everything regarding this matter was explained in the end.”
What can I say, simply keep ignoring the fact that Kishimoto himself stated that he left it up to the readers to interpret who Sarada’s mother is. Simply keep ignoring the fact that all logic provided in Gaiden points to Karin being the mother. Simply keep ignoring that Kishimoto elected not to squash all of this by just drawing a single panel of Sakura pregnant. Simply ignore the fact that nothing about Sakura being the biological mother makes sense.
“And simply keep ignoring Sarada’s amazing resemblance to Sakura and the fact that, besides her facial features, she has also inherited her extremely good chakra control, thus having the very same amazing strength and beign able to punch the ground just like her.”
Simply keep ignoring that Karin couldn’t have possibly been able to perform that technique that she supposedly “inherited” from Sakura - because she wasn’t trained to do so. Simply keep ignoring the fact that strength like that IS NOT an inherited trait and was something taught to Sakura by Tsunade, therefore, Sarada cannot just be born with it. Simply keep ignoring that a chakra burst like that makes sense coming from someone with Uzumaki genes because Uzumaki are known for having incredible amounts of chakra.
“And simply keep creating terrible, desperate *headcanons*, in which a man*has* a kid with a woman who has only always had an extremely creepy, unhealthy obsession for him, but STILL decides to marry *another* woman, who is actually the only one who has always loved him unconditionally, and brings the child to her (probably because he understands right away what great mistake he has made) AND in which the kid *hasn’t known the truth* their entire life and *never* gets to see or even meet their *real mother* at all.”
Thank you. I will keep creating headcanons. Do you want to know why? Because I enjoy them. They’re not for you. They’re for me.
Speaking of which, if they’re for me, to make me happy - why the fuck are you so desperate to get involved? Why aren’t you happy enough with your supposed beautiful SS relationship that you have to keep attacking other people for not liking it?
According to people like you, anyone who has a differing opinion is “desperate” and “terrible” for thinking or liking certain things. People like you disgust me.
I WILL continue to headcanon that Sasuke had a kid with Karin - does this mean I ship them? No.
Why don’t you and all of the other little SS minions stay in your fucking lane? Stay far away from us with your pairing where Sasuke can’t bare to stay with his apparently “beloved wife and child” so much that he bails for 12 fucking years. Have fun with your pairing where Sasuke refuses to fucking touch Sakura, let alone kiss her. Please, enjoy. Have fun with a woman who is so miserably in love with a guy who NEVER fucking wanted her and told her numerous times that he WAS NOT INTERESTED, and is so desperate to spawn his child, that she gives up all of her dreams to clean his house while failing to remember if her so called “beloved” husband wears glasses or not. Enjoy knowing that the only reason Sasuke is even connected to Sakura is because they have a kid, and has no other reason to be.
Aren’t you enjoying it? Because I sure as hell find it pretty amusing.
I will gladly take my headcanons over this disgusting, abusive, unhealthy, catastrophic fucking pairing. I don’t want your canon.
“And what is this mainly Karin-related post doing in the Sarada Uchiha tag, DESPITE the fact that you’re actually trying to steal her from her real parents?”
Um, because it mentions Sarada in the post? It’s not inaccurately tagged. I would understand your rage if it were in the SS tag but it isn’t. Also, SS fans don’t own the Sarada Uchiha tag.
And if you seriously think my headcanons are “stealing” her from her real parents than you SS fans are more insecure than I thought.
“Even though my original post had nothing to do with pairings.”
Your post actually WAS about pairings, as you obviously hate SS and ship SK to the point of trying to steal Sarada from her real parents.
“I love how you use this as an opportunity to throw in your unnecessary opinions about Sakura and NS even though my post had nothing to do with either of those things. You’re reading so much more into a post just so you can have something to be upset about.”
Those were those simple examples which were meant to make you understand that filler episodes keep portraying characters in a complete different way then they are in the actual Manga.
“People don’t need filler to determine that Sakura is selfish - canon does that already. Most of the people who do deem Sakura selfish don’t even site filler for their evidence, they actually primarily use panels from the manga. Her canon self IS selfish. She cares about what she wants while masquerading that she is some sort of selfless martyr.”
It’s so funny that y’all, haters, see Sakura as ”selfish”, even though all she ever wished was to save Sasuke and to stop him from sinking even lower into darkness, just like the following panels prove:
^ This is the message Kishi wanted all of you to hear.
Or maybe you’re referring to her two genuine confessions, when she begged him to stay with her, promising he would be happy? Both times, she decided to do that and confess her genuine feelings in order to try to make him stay. She wanted to stop him, as she knew right away that the path he had chosen was certainly the wrong one.
And you could clearly see that Sasuke was hesitant after Sakura’s speech, because what she was offering him sounded so good and he genuinely wanted to stay with her and the rest of Team 7, who he saw as their family, but he knew he couldn’t. He knew he had to continue his revenge. And this is why he called her “annoying”. Because she actually managed to make him question his decisions and showed him what he could have had if he were to stay, but he knew he just couldn’t.
Also, seeing that you hate Sakura so much, you’re probably even considering Karin’s *love* as “selfless”. x”D If so, please, don’t make me laugh. Sakura’s love is the complete opposite of Karin’s obsession. Sakura is the only girl who has always loved Sasuke genuinely.
“Also, I never mentioned NS or anything pairing related so why does that even matter? As a SS fan whose pairing is canon - you sure do focus a lot on stuff that supposedly doesn’t matter. Interesting.”
^ I’ll say it once again: those two, including NS, were just simple examples to prove my argument. Nothing more, nothing less. And yes, I am perfectly aware that SP has made several fillers containing NS in them, which were completely meaningless and pointless.
A lot of people (mainly the ones who were only watching the anime) believed that NaruSaku was more than it actually was just because of those fillers. And a lot of people changed their opinions on Sakura just because the way SP kept portraying her.
^ So, in your opinion, the fact that I’m aware of these facts means that I’m *focusing* on something more than I should? c:
“Whether or not I understand a character in a different light has nothing to do with you or your opinions. Are you claiming that I don’t understand her better or that my understanding doesn’t matter because it’s filler? Because the message I derive from a character has absolutely nothing to do with you, so I don’t understand why you’re so insistent on ranting about it.”
All I’m saying is that a filler, especially one who contradicts the original Manga, should not change your opinion on a certain character.
“And in what way was Karin not innocent? Please, tell me. Oh, are you one of those SS people who called Karin a psychotic rapist? Because if you are, I am not even going to bother justifying that argument - it’s disgusting.”
^ Just look at this *innocent* girl. :3
“You guys love to rant and rave about gross Karin is for being all over Sasuke when Sakura acts the same exact way. (But no, of course when Sakura does it it’s TRUE LOVE).”
You’re actually saying that Sakura acted the *exact same way*? Really?
If so, why didn’t I see Sakura in any of these positions:
x’D Also, even though it has nothing to do with this, just look at poor Sasuke’s face while being near Karin:
“Why are you so fucking concerned with why I gain better understanding of a character? Seriously, why are you so butthurt about it that you have to make this huge rebuttal? Grow up. Do I need a filler to appreciate Karin? No. Does this filler, while I recognize it as contradicting canon give me a little more understanding? Yes.”
You’re right, you are the one to decide whether or not to appreciate a character more from something as canon as a fanfiction, which even contradics the Manga.
“Please, kindly do not tell me how I should understand a character and I won’t tell you how to understand a healthy fictional relationship.”
Oh, so you’re basically saying that SS was unhealthy (just like the other ASSes), but still ship SK? x”D Thank you very much for making me laugh. I honestly really needed this right now.
And I do know how to understand a relationship. On the other hand, you’re certainly the one who doesn’t.
“I hope you realize that in every flashback of any of the characters as children their faces look more round as well as their eyes, and their eyes are always bigger. Many, if not all of the characters, are animated in a way that makes them look incredibly different from their current selves but you don’t see me over here running my mouth about how they “simply cannot change that much.”
And I hope you realize that the eye shape, especially the eyelids, simply cannot change that much.
Karin’s eyelids have always been like this, fact which clearly can’t be seen in the design created by SP:
“Also that panel of Karin from the manga was an older version that the one you’re comparing it to - so the comparison doesn’t work.”
I clearly stated that this was the youngest version of Karin drawn by Kishi. Therefore, that one and her later designs are the only canon ones.
“Also, I love that you compare a picture of a 9 year old Karin to that of a 16 year old Sakura and say they look similar. They don’t look anything alike.”
Actually, they do look alike, because, just like I’ve said, the eye shape Karin had in this design is the one both Sakura and Sarada have always had, even when they have gotten older (just like that image with both Sakura and Sarada’s facial features which I had posted in my previous reblog showed):
“And funny you mention that they tried to make Karin look more like Sakura here - when in Naruto chap 700 and Sakura’s next gen design looks EXACTLY like Karin’s.”
Enlighten me, what does this beauty have to do with Karin:
Is it the lipstick? Is it the fact that Sakura is showing her belly a little only from the front in her design for Boruto: Naruto the Movie? Since when wearing these makes you a complete Karin-copy? x”D
“What can I say, simply keep ignoring the fact that Kishimoto himself stated that he left it up to the readers to interpret who Sarada’s mother is. Simply keep ignoring that Kishimoto elected not to squash all of this by just drawing a single panel of Sakura pregnant.”
What can I say, simply keep twisting Kishi’s words as much as you can. c:
What Kishi officially stated in that newest interview was that he had already drawn Karin’s flashbacks of the time when Sakura and Sasuke remained at her hideout for Sarada’s birth (as it was probably the nearest place), after Sasuke and Sakura had travelled together for a while, AND these flashbacks also presented the way she moved on from Sasuke, as she basically saw how happy he was with Sakura.
Sadly, yes, he eventually decided to remove those flashbacks from Karin’s POV from Chapter 10, even though, as I’ve just stated, he already had them drawn. BUT, this way, what Kishi left up to the readers was to imagine how Sarada’s birth went down and the way Karin moved on from Sasuke when she saw how happy he was with Sakura and with his newborn daughter, AND NOT who is Sarada’s biological mother, as this has been officially stated by Sasuke, Sakura and Karin themselves on several occasions throughout Naruto Gaiden and as the MAIN plot of this Gaiden was actually about Sarada’s parentage and everything about this was already explained IN CANON. ._.
^ But what can I say, simply keep ignoring this.
Kishi also stated that, instead of these flashbacks, he decided to add several panels with the Uchiha Family and the SasuSakuSara family photo.
Furthermore, Kishi also said in the same interview that, just like Naruto Gaiden showed, Sakura and Sasuke share an extremely deep connection, EVEN when they’re far away from each other. :3 Still, I wonder why you, antis, are also completely ignoring this? c:
Furthermore, Kishi even said in his latest interview that the ONLY reason why he included the “Who’s the real mother?” plot (even though the answer to this question was CLEAR even from Chapter 700, when Sarada made her first appearance) into this Gaiden and made it basically the main story had been the fact that he had been asked so much about why Sarada wore similar glasses to Karin’s. And now we have the answer, as it sems that Karin really likes Sarada, is happy about Sasuke and Sakura’s marriage and is especially happy for Sasuke, so, therefore, she was the one who gave Sarada the glasses, as a gift. That’s all. ._.
Kishi’s initial plans about this Gaiden were different, but he said he would have wanted to include Team Taka anyway, in order not to let them completely aside and to show us what happened to them, as they hadn’t been present in Chapter 700 at all.
But, you know, a “Who’s the mother?” plot sounded more interesting to him and he, of course, knew that, this way, he could have also caught the antis’ attention (inculding you, of course) and could have caused some other shipping wars. -_-
Also, keep ignoring that Kishi himself also stated some time ago in an interview that he decided to give Sarada glasses just in order to make her look intelligent, to complete her design and because he wanted to hide her stare which would have sometimes looked way too much like Sasuke’s. Also, in the very same interview, he added that he had wanted to make Sarada like a girl version of Sasuke, but also had thought that this way she would have been a little too scary and, therefore, had given her several elements of Sakura (he was basically referring to her eye and face shapes, her eyelashes, her big forehead, her expressions and a mostly straight hairstyle that was very similar to hers, only that it was shorter), in order to make her look prettier.
“Simply keep ignoring the fact that all logic provided in Gaiden points to Karin being the mother. Simply ignore the fact that nothing about Sakura being the biological mother makes sense.”
Simply keep ignoring that Karin being *the mother*, even though SasuSaku was basically canonized on panel in Chapter 699 though the Forehead Poke, also known as “The Ultimate Expression of Love”, through which Sasuke made Sakura understand that he had reciprocated her feelings (he had started reciprocating them way before that, even from Part I, but this was the actual time he showed this to her) and which Sakura considers as being “even better than a kiss” wouldn’t have made ANY sense at all.
Simply keep ignoring that Karin being *the mother*, despite the fact that Sasuke was married to Sakura, wouldn’t have made any sense at all.
Simply keep ignoring that everything about Sakura being the biological mother makes sense.
Also, the fact that Sakura is Sarada’s mother doesn’t make the lesson Sarada learnt about the fact that blood connections don’t matter and that only love and memories do any less valuable.
“Simply keep ignoring that Karin couldn’t have possibly been able to perform that technique that she supposedly “inherited” from Sakura - because she wasn’t trained to do so. Simply keep ignoring the fact that strength like that IS NOT an inherited trait and was something taught to Sakura by Tsunade, therefore, Sarada cannot just be born with it. Simply keep ignoring that a chakra burst like that makes sense coming from someone with Uzumaki genes because Uzumaki are known for having incredible amounts of chakra.”
Simply keep igoring the fact that I’ve never said that Sarada inherited Sakura’s amazing strength. What I actually said was that Sarada inherited Sakura’s extremely good chakra control, which CAN be inherited and WAS inherited.
Sakura HAD an extremely good chakra control from the very beginning:
Yes, she had to learn how to control it even better and focus all of it in just one punch and was later trained by Tsunade in order to do so, but Sakura has always had an extremely good chakra control.
And yeah, Sarada inherited it. As I’ve said, she didn’t acutally inherit Sakura’s great strength, but her amazing chakra control.
And Sarada DIDN’T need a large amount of chakra in order to have that extreme strength. She only needed to have that chakra control, which WAS inherited from Sakura.
“Speaking of which, if they’re for me, to make me happy - why the fuck are you so desperate to get involved? Why aren’t you happy enough with your supposed beautiful SS relationship that you have to keep attacking other people for not liking it?”
Trust me, I am extremely happy with everything SS has, including the fact that it was the main romance in the entire Manga and the only couple who was canonized on pane and that the WHOLE Naruto Manga ended with a panel containing a coloured SasuSakuSara Family photo, while the last lines from this very last panel were referring to the fact that THEIR LOVE (the love between Sasuke, Sakura and Sarada) IS THE REAL DEAL:
“According to people like you, anyone who has a differing opinion is “desperate” and “terrible” for thinking or liking certain things. People like you disgust me.”
No. I have never said it that way.
What I have actually said is that creating such *headcanons*, in which a man *has* a kid with a woman he has mostly never even cared about, while actually marrying *the other* woman and bringing his kid to her, and in which the kid *has never found out the truth* and *will never most likely never know it* anyway IS, indeed, terrible AND desperate, as you’re doing this just because you don’t want to accept the reality and just because you hate Sakura and SS in general.
I am perfectly aware of the fact that you and the other antis simply love twisting somebody’s words (mostly Kishi’s), but this should actually stop, don’t you think?
“I WILL continue to headcanon that Sasuke had a kid with Karin”
Whatever floats your boat. x”D
“Why don’t you and all of the other little SS minions stay in your fucking lane?”
*Dearest*, you’re in no position to talk. I was staying in my lane, as all I did was simply checking the tag of my OTP’s kid when I found your Karin-related post in it. c:
“Stay far away from us with your pairing where Sasuke can’t bare to stay with his apparently “beloved wife and child” so much that he bails for 12 fucking years.”
Just look at this:
^ This IS a memory. This is why it’s blurred. This is why it’s white in the middle and then takes a really foggy shade of grey, which emphasizes the fact that, at first, when Naruto told her to try and remember important memories, Sarada focused and eventually managed to remember this scene, which, at first, was completely unclear, fact shown by the white background from the middle, but then began to take shape, fact shown by the shade of grey on the sides of the picture.
And WHY would a series of flashbacks start with Sarada’s imagination? Sarada wasn’t trying to imagine situations that she would have wanted to happen. She was purely trying to remember some events that were dear to her, all of which actually happened.
On the other hand, look at this:
^ THIS is how a picture from Sarada’s imagination would look like. There’s nothing unclear, there’s nothing blurry and the colours used are way darker than the ones used for the memory.
And Sarada was only 11 in Naruto Gaiden, as confirmed in an interview. And Sasuke probably left at least when she was around 2 or 3 years old, after he had spent some time with his family after the three of them had returned from their travels right after Sarada’s birth. Therefore, the time Sasuke has been travelling for is lowered drastically and what really is important is that Sasuke had stayed with Sarada and Sakura for some time after Sarada had been born before he had to start that extremely long, difficult mission and he was able to watch Sarada grow a little.
But yes, Sasuke had to be gone for a very long time, but only because he was the only one who could have possibly done this extremely long, difficult mission, as only he had both the Sharingan and the Rinnegan.
And, just like Sakura herself stated in one of the flashbacks from Naruto Gaiden Chapter 5, it’s the fact that he loves both her and Sarada very much that made him begin this mission in the first place. He wanted to know that they’re completely safe. So, Sasuke started looking for the threat that could have been even bigger than Kaguya, as he himself stated, in order to protect his family, his village and the entire world in general.
Furthermore, knowing the fact that Sakura was also present at the Five Kage Summit when Sasuke returned to Konoha and told the Kages about the threat that could have been even greater than Kaguya, it is safe to assume that Sakura was aware of what Sasuke was doing and that both of them kept contact with each other.
Still, you’re probably wondering why Sasuke sent the hawk to Naruto in Naruto Gaiden and not to Sakura herself. That’s just because Naruto is the Hokage and he was probably mainly the one who Sasuke was sending the most information regarding his mission to.
And Sasuke couldn’t contact anyone much anyway, because he was mainly travelling through different dimensions.
Also:
^ Sasuke asked everyone from the Five Kage Summit to keep his mission as a completely secret.
This is probably why Sarada couldn’t talk to Sasuke for all those years. Maybe he wanted to exclude absolutely any possibility of her finding out about his extremely secret mission.
“Have fun with your pairing where Sasuke refuses to fucking touch Sakura”
Sasuke *refuses* to touch Sakura?
Uh, what about this:
OR when Sasuke caught Sakura in his arms and was basically pulling her into him, fact shown by the position of Sakura’s left hand (plus the extremely intense eye interaction):
AND what about all those times when Sakura hugged Sasuke and he didn’t oppose at all:
PLUS the fact that he literally touched every single part of Sakura’s body while doing the do. :3
Still, should I remind you how many times Karin was rejected by Sasuke? Actually, this happened every single time she tried to get *nearer* to him:
let alone kiss her.”
So, you’re one of those who *believe* that Sasuke and Sakura never kissed? x”D
Just look at this picture:
When Sarada asked Sakura if she and Sasuke had ever kissed, Sakura looked surprised (the right panel). She didn’t expect such a question from Sarada.
But look at the panel in the middle. Sakura started blushing and WAS thinking about their first kiss or about a kiss between them in general, which must have been so intense and passionate that it simply COULDN’T be described to such a little girl.
Therefore, in the left panel, Sakura decided to think about another deep, meaningful gesture, something even better than a kiss, as she herself stated, something which could actually be described to Sarada and which wasn’t related to her and Sasuke’s intimacy.
In the left panel, you can also see that she has placed her finger right below her lower lips, because she remained like this after she had thought of one of her and Sasuke’s kisses. IF she had only done this because she wanted to show that she was thinking about something, she would have placed her hand (most likely her thumb and her index finger) directly on her chin.
Now, we have this panel:
You can see that, once the Forehead Poke came on her mind, she immediately placed her hand on her forehead. She remembered how Sasuke poked her forehead (on numerous occasions probably). This gesture simply shows what she was thinking about, just like it happened when she placed her finger below her lip, when she had remained like that after she had thought about the kiss.
And now look at this picture:
Her expression from Chapter 699, when she was asking Sasuke to take her with him, is exactly the same as her expression from the one she had in the middle panel from above. She was blushing and was acting shy. Just like it happened with Sarada, she was first looking at the ground and couldn’t look Sasuke in the eye right away.Also, I’ve already discussed what really happened at the end of Naruto Gaiden Chapter 10, so just click the following link:
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“Have fun with a woman who is so miserably in love with a guy who NEVER fucking wanted her”
That’s *so right*, he *never* wanted her… I guess this is why he married her in the end, even though he literally didn’t have to do this. It was HIS OWN DECISION. c:
“and told her numerous times that he WAS NOT INTERESTED”
These “numerous times” actually being one and the online translations were not even accurate during that part, as Sasuke DIDN’T say that he wasn’t interested.
In the raws, Sasuke said this: “There’s no reason for me to like her or her to like me”, NOT that he wasn’t interested in her, as MangaPanda wrongly translated.
Therefore, Sasuke did NOT say that he had no interest in Sakura. All he was trying to apply was the “reason”. He used his own logic in order to make himself think that he was right. In other words, no matter how both Sasuke and Sakura felt and what feelings they had for each other, there was no reason for them to like each other. This was his belief at that moment.
Also, as he stated in Chapter 698, Sasuke tried to cut all of the bonds he had with his dear ones, as he probably didn’t want to invlove them in his dark plans and as he thought that this way he would have gained more power. Therefore, here, in Chapter 693, he was basically trying to remember himself that he had to keep his dear ones away from him and let his own feelings aside.
Furthermore, Kakashi stated that loving someone doesn’t need a reason and that you only need a reason to hate someone. When he said this, Kakashi was adressing Sasuke’s *belief* of not having a reason for him and Sakura to like each other.
Let’s also not forget how Sakura’s only wish was to save Sasuke from the darkness and to stop him from sinking even further, and NOT to make him hers, this proving, one again, how deep and genuine her love for Sasuke is.
“and is so desperate to spawn his child, that she gives up all of her dreams to clean his house”
Once again, you’re *so right*, Sakura should *never* clean their house and *should* simply always let it be dusty and messy.
And has anywhere been stated that Sakura has given up her dreams? Sakura IS still the strongest kunoichi and the best Medical-nin, as she surprassed Tsunade herself at the young age of 16, so it seems that she has already achieved every single dream she had?
“while failing to remember if her so called “beloved” husband wears glasses or not.”
I *thought* you had realized that, by saying that she *wasn’t* sure about this, she was only trying to avoid Sarada’s questions, probably in order to avoid any possibility of eventually reaching the discussion regarding Sasuke’s mission, which HAD to be kept as a complete secret.
“Enjoy knowing that the only reason Sasuke is even connected to Sakura is because they have a kid, and has no other reason to be.”
NO.
What Sasuke meant while saying that was that Sarada is the living proof of him and Sakura being connected, thus basically stating that she is the proof of him and Sakura loving each other.
Isn’t it clear? ._.
Sasuke basically stated that, IF he and Sakura hadn’t loved each other, Sarada wouldn’t have existed. She wouldn’t have been born.
But she EXISTS and her simple existence basically represents the deep love between her parents. That’s what Kishi meant with that.
So, what I’m saying is that they loved each other so much that they decided to transform their love into a beautiful, precious child and THIS is what is connecting their feelings.
Shall I also mention the fact that, in the official Media Viz translation and in the raws for this chapter, Sasuke actually replies with this: “Because you EXIST, Sarada.”:
This basically proves that what I’ve previously claimed is completely true and accurate. c:
And look at Sakura’s expression. She is smiling gently, as she knows that both her and Sasuke love each other and as she understood what Sasuke meant (unlike y’all, antis).
“Aren’t you enjoying it? Because I sure as hell find it pretty amusing.”
Actually, I am, because, unlike you and the other haters, I was actually able to understand certain moments and facts. I always tried to look deeper, read beyond the lines and reach the real meaning behind certain actions and scenes.
“I will gladly take my headcanons over this disgusting, abusive, unhealthy, catastrophic fucking pairing. I don’t want your canon.”
I mean, it’s so funny that you’re actually talking like this about SS, but actually ship SK at the same time and create headcanons in which Karin *is Sarada’s real mother*, but, despite this, Sasuke is still married to Sakura. x”D
Once again, whatever floats your boat.
“Um, because it mentions Sarada in the post? It’s not inaccurately tagged. I would understand your rage if it were in the SS tag but it isn’t. Also, SS fans don’t own the Sarada Uchiha tag.”
No, we don’t own the tag, but at least we’re not the ones who keep trying to steal her from her real mother who loves her so much and who is deeply loved by her, too. The fact that you won’t accept the canon facts and will still *headcanon* Karin as *her mother* literally means that you don’t actually care about Sarada’s happiness at all and this is why these kinds of posts shouldn’t be placed in the Sarada Uchiha tag, too.
“And if you seriously think my headcanons are “stealing” her from her real parents than you SS fans are more insecure than I thought.”
Well, they actually are, because you’d literally do anything in order to make yourself *believe* that Sakura is *not* her mother and that Sasuke and Sakura *didn’t* do the do, and this just because you hate both Sakura and SS.
To be honest, your headcanons don’t affect me at all, as a headcanon is one thing, while the reality is another. Honestly, you should be the one affected by them, as the simple fact that you keep creating them proves that you simply don’t want to accept the reality. But do whatever you want.
And I am not insecure. x”D I honestly don’t have anything to be insecure about and if I had actually been, I wouldn’t have decided to write such a long post in order to try and enlighten you a little bit. I simply can’t stand it when I see how many lies are said about SS, and this just because certain individuals haven’t understood either Sasuke and Sakura or SasuSaku’s relationship and development in general, so of course I have to debunk their arguments right away, no matter how much I have to write. c:
Anyway, I hope you also see that this whole *argument* is completely pointless, as I won’t change your mind and you, for sure, won’t change mine either.
